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  In what decade was it clearly apparent that Watchtower was a high control religion?

  by UnshackleTheChains in

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  i'm just curious to get people's views on this.. the bible students seem to start of as quite a liberal group under charles taze russell, albeit he had some whacky teachings going on.

  obviously things began to change under rutherford.

  but what decade did it become abundantly clear that the society was indeed high control religion or even labeled a cult?.

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  The definition many use to call certain group's cult's is they don't believe in Jesus. That is a bunch of horse pooey. You need to follow those who are experts in what a cult consist of. Steve Hassan is one of those experts. My wife and I never really knew what a cult was until we read his book back in 2008 or so. One of the method's he used was the BITE method. B was for " behavioral control" I was for "information control" T was for "thought control" and E was for " emotional control".

  Just by that one method we can see the WT. fits into the category as a cult. Even though the the signs of a cult have always been there for the WT no one really knew a good tried and true method until Steps Hassan wrote his book. Still Totally ADD
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  What would you do for next November 5?

  by Faded in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think everything has to start somewhere, and you can see the passion and commitment from those loyal 50 that showed up in warwick yesterday.

  the event was not very well organized but you could see the passion & dedication from most of them.

  and i think they at least touched a couple of people at the kh yesterday.. having an annual day of action actually inspires me.

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  Both my wife and I have developed in the last 6 years several dozen friends and many more acquaintance. All know about Jw cult. We have also given 3 sermons at our local UU congregation on cult's in so many years and how Jw's fit into that mix. I know our friends talk to others about our experience's because when they introduce us to their family and friends they often say these are the ones we been talking about.

  For us on Nov. 5 of next year we will be doing the same thing as we have been doing. For us this is our protest that we are involved in. Education is we feel the best way to inform people. Still Totally ADD
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  November 3, 2017 TO ALL CONGREGATIONS IN THE US BRANCH Re: Update on Recent Natural Disasters

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  november 3, 2017 to all congregations in the united states branch territory re: update on recent natural disasters.

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  flipper I think Trump took lessons from the WT. Who else is there to study than the Wt. in making you look like a asshole? Lol. Still Totally ADD
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  Hugh Hefner died a few weeks back but no post on it. Interesting.

  by Still Totally ADD in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i bring this up because like me i sure many of the men who was kids in the wt cult got their first taste of what a nude women looked like.

  it was the adolescent male sex education for most of us.

  one friend i had who's dad was a elder told me they always had playboys in his house because his dad subscribed to them.

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  Thank you for all your comments. Simon I am sure Hugh Hefner was a slime ball. I realize sex could be a hot topic for many. As a elder for so many years I saw a lot of sexual dysfunctional young men. They was either over sex or so guilt ridden about having sex. I just tried to use the death of Hefner to bring up the topic.

  I found it very interesting the reactions that came up. From jokes, anger and serious comments. Maybe Playboy had a bigger effect on all of us than we thought. But if it wasn't for sex none of us would be here talking about it. Thanks for the opportunity to bring this up. Still Totally ADD
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  Hugh Hefner died a few weeks back but no post on it. Interesting.

  by Still Totally ADD in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i bring this up because like me i sure many of the men who was kids in the wt cult got their first taste of what a nude women looked like.

  it was the adolescent male sex education for most of us.

  one friend i had who's dad was a elder told me they always had playboys in his house because his dad subscribed to them.

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  Thank you flipper I could not say it any better. I remember back in 1971 at the D.C. they had a big part on masturbation and how bad it was. I was 17 at the time and had no idea what masturbation was even though I was doing it. My parents never said anything about it to me so all was still the same about sex don't say don't tell. Lol. You may ask why I didn't know what that word was it was because I only knew it by the slang term that was used in my youth.

  Another reason I feel how this cult hurts people is how they expose children who are to young to such information. In early 1973 I was 18 years old my mom and I went to the ministry school and service meeting that night without my dad. He was sick with the flu. During the service meeting a talk was given on the evils of oral copulations. I then knew what both those words meant. On our way home from the meeting my mom ask me what that talk was all about. So here I am 18 years old explaining what oral sex was to my 50 year old mother. These are things no one should have to do. Lol. Just like all religion they make sex dirty so they can control others. Take care. Still Totally ADD
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  Hugh Hefner died a few weeks back but no post on it. Interesting.

  by Still Totally ADD in

  1. jw
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  i bring this up because like me i sure many of the men who was kids in the wt cult got their first taste of what a nude women looked like.

  it was the adolescent male sex education for most of us.

  one friend i had who's dad was a elder told me they always had playboys in his house because his dad subscribed to them.

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  Thank you 1010, that is the kind of comments I was looking for. I agree with all you said. The idea I was trying to bring out does the cult messed us up all of us sexually or is this common everywhere in religion. True all ii do understand is being a male not gay, not a women and not having a major disability. If I am guilty of anything, I a am just trying to understand and learn a little more.

  Thank you for all those who commented. Still Totally ADD
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  Hugh Hefner died a few weeks back but no post on it. Interesting.

  by Still Totally ADD in

  1. jw
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  i bring this up because like me i sure many of the men who was kids in the wt cult got their first taste of what a nude women looked like.

  it was the adolescent male sex education for most of us.

  one friend i had who's dad was a elder told me they always had playboys in his house because his dad subscribed to them.

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  I think what I am looking for is how did the cult effect you men who grew up in it. Did it hurt you as a man? Did it make you think more about sex than is normal or did make you feel guilty? I know other religions have messed up people sexually but to me and I may be wrong this cult seems to hurt people more in these matters. Your opinions please. Still Totally ADD
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  Hugh Hefner died a few weeks back but no post on it. Interesting.

  by Still Totally ADD in

  1. jw
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  i bring this up because like me i sure many of the men who was kids in the wt cult got their first taste of what a nude women looked like.

  it was the adolescent male sex education for most of us.

  one friend i had who's dad was a elder told me they always had playboys in his house because his dad subscribed to them.

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  I bring this up because like me I sure many of the men who was kids in the WT cult got their first taste of what a nude women looked like. It was the adolescent male sex education for most of us. One friend I had who's dad was a elder told me they always had playboys in his house because his dad subscribed to them. For me I thought that was great because It had easy access.

  Of course there was a lot of guilt on my behalf enjoying these maz. It wasn't for the article's it was for the pictures. That was about all the sex education I got. Except for all the service meetings condemning adultery, fornications, oral sex and let's not forget fantasizing sexual things. With that I was totally condemned. I was going to die at Armageddon no matter how good I was. Yes the WT cult is highly skilled in using guilt especially sexual guilt.

  With all this said i feel the emasculating of male's who were raised in this cult have suffered sexual repression. I cannot tell you how many adult men I gave counsel to as an elder on sexual matters. I remember one poor guy who was married for just a year was so guilt-ridden he found it very hard to have sex with his wife. Very sad. I guess the thought I am trying to bring out is am I correct on this assumption or am I blowing smoke? The cult is very unhealthy in so many ways why would it not be in this case? This is my observation what are yours. Still Totally ADD
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  A Little Direction Please

  by Brian J in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i'm an active elder, cobe, just got home from the meeting where i handled the treasures part and concluded by announcing a friend of mine has been d/f,.....blah blah blah...and over the last year have woken up.

  i simply cannot spill my guts to my wife and children as it would be family suicide.

  i have zero desire to bash, spread my feelings, or become an "apostate".

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  Welcome Brain J. It was 2009 my father had just died. My mother was suffering with dementia and becoming very hard to handle. Feb. of that year I went to KM school at Patterson for PO,s. With all this going on I was waking up about what I was seeing. So here I was a born-in, almost 25 years as a elder and PO for 3 years. I was a nervous wreck not knowing what to do. What help me the most was coming to this site and reading what others did to fade and help their mates to fade with them.

  I can't add to the advice everyone here gave you. It is all sound advice. Just take it slow. The idea given to you to study with your family by putting in thinking critical thinking will help you. But very little pieces at a time. Also in a very methodical way work at stepping down from being the COBE then let some time go by then step down as a elder. For me it took 2 years to do this. By gong slowly this will take a lot of the focus off of you.

  Everyone experience is different but similar. Use what will work for you and your family. Get plenty of rest, eat healthy and take care of your mental and emotional health. Always try to have a positive attitude on what you are doing. I won't lie to you, it is hard but will worth it. Take care and best wishes for you and your family. Still Totally ADD
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  Brooklyn Daily Eagle: Jehovah's Witnesses sell The Towers, a storied Brooklyn Heights hotel

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.brooklyneagle.com/articles/2017/11/1/jehovahs-witnesses-sell-towers-storied-brooklyn-heights-hotel.

  jehovah's witnesses sell the towers, a storied brooklyn heights hotel.

  the jehovah's witnesses have sold the towers, a storied brooklyn heights hotel.

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  The you for the report my dear Anderson's. This was all done on the backs of free labor. Yes I know they got room and board. The Chinese, India, and Japan at one time in the past consider labor had no value. Only the higher ups became prosperous. I believe this might be the WT thinking. As soon as those countries turned things around and started to pay for labor a large part of the countries began to prosper. The WT is still behind times thinking labor is not worth anything. So they will always prosper materially. Still Totally ADD